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[Tweet](https://twitter.com/share) ## Listen to Episode 55: No business owner has ever made it to the top without having to overcome hurdles along the way. That’s a lesson that Jennifer and Brian know all too well after having faced their own hardships before starting their own legal services firm. In today’s podcast, we’re covering the ideas that many people harbor in their minds that keep them from taking the next step in their career. Brian and Jennifer break down the various motivators in our lives, and how a simple shift in mindset could change millions of lives. Today’s a unique podcast because we have two special guests, the founders of Leafy Legal Services and hosts of ***The Leafy Podcast*****,** Jennifer Gligoric and Brian Price. This duo has dedicated their careers for the last 20 years to helping business owners, including real estate investors. Their latest endeavor was built with a passion for protecting those business owners and their assets from the cutthroat industries that they operate in. Between Jennifer and Brian, we’ve got a lot to discuss, and there are many pearls of wisdom to take from each of them. Their goal is to inspire people who want to start a business to start now and for those who’ve done it and are struggling to use these trials to their advantage. Some of the highlights you won’t want to miss include: - A poverty mindset vs. an opportunity mindset. - Internal vs. External motivation and confidence. - Staying positive, even through tragedy. - Separating yourself from your business using an LLC. - The best lawsuit is one that never happened. - If you have something to give to the world, do it now.   ***“True confidence is actually an internal thing. You shouldn't really need anybody else’s approval...That’s very fleeting. Until you have your own internal confidence, you’re never going to be truly grateful...no matter how much you accumulate.”*** ***—Brian Price***   ***“Your biggest mistakes are sometimes your biggest launchpads.”*** ***—Jennifer Gligoric***   **Podcast Summary:** 2:25 - Brian discusses the tipping point in his real estate career: losing everything during the 2008 crash. 4:20 - Expectations vs. reality: what really happens when I “lose everything”? 6:04 - Jennifer’s inspirational story. From moldy bread to living fearlessly.  10:17 - Reaching for satisfaction instead of money. *Hint* the answer is gratitude. 11:38 - Do I generate confidence internally or externally? 14:48 - If you’ve ever wondered why some people just radiate positivity, here’s why. 16:40 - Asset protection: Brian covers the how and the why. 19:42 - Jennifer explains how Leafy Legal protects business owners from threats to their assets and operations. 23:55 - How “arms length” clauses can be applied to real estate. 26:43 - Brian’s first income hack: springboarding his career with affiliate marketing. 27:50 - Jennifer’s first income hack: investing her time into becoming a certified coach, plus writing a book. 30:26 - Jennifer and Brian talk about their biggest successes. 33:13 - Biggest piece of advice for income hackers: no contribution is too small toward your future goals. 34:47 - Even the most successful people started out where you are.  36:38 - “Overnight success” is really years of work behind the scenes. 38:24 - How can we share our financial knowledge with our posterity? 41:24 - Wrapping up questions with Brian and Jennifer. **Resources:** Who Moved My Cheese? [https://www.amazon.com/Who-Moved-My-Cheese-Amazing/dp/0399144463/](https://www.amazon.com/Who-Moved-My-Cheese-Amazing/dp/0399144463/) How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie: [https://www.amazon.com/How-win-Friends-Influence-People/dp/8189297813](https://www.amazon.com/How-win-Friends-Influence-People/dp/8189297813) The Entrepreneurial Ethos by Jarie Bolander: [https://www.amazon.com/ENTREPRENEUR-ETHOS-Inclusive-Resilient-Entrepreneur/dp/1634925505](https://www.amazon.com/ENTREPRENEUR-ETHOS-Inclusive-Resilient-Entrepreneur/dp/1634925505) Slack App: [https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.Slack&hl=en_US](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.Slack&hl=en_US) Waze App [https://www.waze.com/apps](https://www.waze.com/apps) Free E-Book - Asset Protection Basics for Real Estate Investors [https://go.leafyassets.com/ap-ebook1](https://go.leafyassets.com/ap-ebook1)   Want to learn more? Join Ryan on our next webinar to learn how you can start real estate investing with The Investor's Edge. [![Learn More - Attend Our Next Webinar](https://no-cache.hubspot.com/cta/default/23711988/17584397-0a87-4eac-9f6e-804ef02c9b6b.png)](https://cta-redirect.hubspot.com/cta/redirect/23711988/17584397-0a87-4eac-9f6e-804ef02c9b6b) ![avatar](https://23711988.fs1.hubspotusercontent-na1.net/hub/23711988/hubfs/RyanGWright-Headshot.jpg?width=290&name=RyanGWright-Headshot.jpg) [Ryan G. Wright ](https://www.theinvestorsedge.com/incomehacker/author/ryan-g-wright)Ryan became a multimillionaire before the age of 30 through a combination of real estate investing and a passion for personal finance. He hates Wall Street, loves personal margin, and advocates for everyone to take control of their finances themselves - all of which he talks about on the Income Hacker podcast. 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Some of the highlights you won’t want to miss include: A poverty mindset vs. an opportunity mindset. Internal vs. External motivation and confidence. Staying positive, even through tragedy. Separating yourself from your business using an LLC. The best lawsuit is one that never happened. If you have something to give to the world, do it now. “True confidence is actually an internal thing. You shouldn't really need anybody else’s approval...That’s very fleeting. Until you have your own internal confidence, you’re never going to be truly grateful...no matter how much you accumulate.” —Brian Price “Your biggest mistakes are sometimes your biggest launchpads.” —Jennifer Gligoric Podcast Summary: 2:25 - Brian discusses the tipping point in his real estate career: losing everything during the 2008 crash. 4:20 - Expectations vs. reality: what really happens when I “lose everything”? 6:04 - Jennifer’s inspirational story. From moldy bread to living fearlessly. 10:17 - Reaching for satisfaction instead of money. *Hint* the answer is gratitude. 11:38 - Do I generate confidence internally or externally? 14:48 - If you’ve ever wondered why some people just radiate positivity, here’s why. 16:40 - Asset protection: Brian covers the how and the why. 19:42 - Jennifer explains how Leafy Legal protects business owners from threats to their assets and operations. 23:55 - How “arms length” clauses can be applied to real estate. 26:43 - Brian’s first income hack: springboarding his career with affiliate marketing. 27:50 - Jennifer’s first income hack: investing her time into becoming a certified coach, plus writing a book. 30:26 - Jennifer and Brian talk about their biggest successes. 33:13 - Biggest piece of advice for income hackers: no contribution is too small toward your future goals. 34:47 - Even the most successful people started out where you are. 36:38 - “Overnight success” is really years of work behind the scenes. 38:24 - How can we share our financial knowledge with our posterity? 41:24 - Wrapping up questions with Brian and Jennifer. 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